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estuardo4
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Posted - 01/02/2009 :  19:00:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello,

I haven't read a thread talking about installing Windows 7 on a Fujitsu P1610 or P1620. Does anybody here have done this? If yes, is it working fine? Does the drives work? Did you keep the Vista drivers?

Please let me know. I want to install it on my machine, but I don't have a large enough HDD (mine is 16 GB SSD) to do a new partition to test.

Thank you very much for your help.

GB

jkkw
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USA
26 Posts

Posted - 01/03/2009 :  05:41:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i have done this on my p1620, all the drivers work. there are only 2 unknown devices i can't fix, but they seem to be related to audio (which you should just take the microsoft default).
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estuardo4
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Posted - 01/06/2009 :  02:11:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you.

I will exchange my current HDD with the original 30GB one and I will install W7 on it. It seems that is a lot better than Vista and XP. Have you notice any advantage using W7?

GB
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jkkw
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USA
26 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2009 :  21:28:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by estuardo4

Thank you.

I will exchange my current HDD with the original 30GB one and I will install W7 on it. It seems that is a lot better than Vista and XP. Have you notice any advantage using W7?

GB



even though i only have 1GB of RAM (stupid 2GB prices are still too high), Windows 7 takes only about 40% of it on cold start, and then goes to around 60% with firefox open and actively browsing. Overall opening of explorer and control panels is also pretty quick. I like it a lot!

i hear that Microsoft is going to announce the public beta soon, so if you want to get it legitimately, you shouldn't have to wait too long!
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prestonmcafee
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Posted - 01/11/2009 :  10:15:37  Show Profile  Visit prestonmcafee's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm using a p1610 with the XP tablet edition. Did you use the Vista drivers or the XP drivers and did the touchscreen still work?

The regular edition of XP doesn't seem to operate the touchscreen on the tablet edition 1610s, even though some of the 1610s use the regular version.
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jkkw
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USA
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Posted - 01/12/2009 :  11:11:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by prestonmcafee

I'm using a p1610 with the XP tablet edition. Did you use the Vista drivers or the XP drivers and did the touchscreen still work?

The regular edition of XP doesn't seem to operate the touchscreen on the tablet edition 1610s, even though some of the 1610s use the regular version.



i didn't try with a 1610 - i have a 1620, and i used the Vista drivers.
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estuardo4
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Posted - 01/13/2009 :  13:26:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by prestonmcafee

I'm using a p1610 with the XP tablet edition. Did you use the Vista drivers or the XP drivers and did the touchscreen still work?

The regular edition of XP doesn't seem to operate the touchscreen on the tablet edition 1610s, even though some of the 1610s use the regular version.



I'm using my P1610 with Vista and the touchscreen is working fine. I bought the XP Professional version of the P1610 and later upgraded to Vista with the DVDs provided for free by Fujitsu. Unfortunately we won't be able to help you know for sure because we both have two different machines than yours. Hopefully more people will try the Windows 7 Beta now that Microsoft is letting people try it.

GB
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jkkw
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USA
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Posted - 01/18/2009 :  01:35:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
been on Win7 on my p1620 for more than a week now, and i'm loving it. Will be trying it on my P1510 soon. It works so much better than Vista on 1gb of ram, that anyone who has access to the beta should try it out. the P1620 can display all the visual effects like transparent Windows and still work pretty well, color me impressed. Go try it out folks!
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keyjey
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Poland
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Posted - 01/19/2009 :  05:58:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That same is on P1610 - i dont have any problems with W7.
Such a shame that 1610 dont have multitouch :(

P1610
Windows 7
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ondam
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  05:31:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by estuardo4

quote:
Originally posted by prestonmcafee

I'm using a p1610 with the XP tablet edition. Did you use the Vista drivers or the XP drivers and did the touchscreen still work?

The regular edition of XP doesn't seem to operate the touchscreen on the tablet edition 1610s, even though some of the 1610s use the regular version.



I'm using my P1610 with Vista and the touchscreen is working fine. I bought the XP Professional version of the P1610 and later upgraded to Vista with the DVDs provided for free by Fujitsu. Unfortunately we won't be able to help you know for sure because we both have two different machines than yours. Hopefully more people will try the Windows 7 Beta now that Microsoft is letting people try it.

GB



Hi,

I'm not managing to get the touch screen to operate in windows 7 and am really becoming desperate. xx(

Hi,

I'm really desperate .

If I try installing the vista driver. I get the same response as I already got a few times on Windows XP Tablet PC, "installation isn't complete". I tried to use this driver :
Touch Panel Driver V.1.0L03 110,881
At this location http://www.pc-ap.fujitsu.com/support/drv_lb_vista_p1610.html

I'm not sure I follow your remark on there being two versions of the p1610, and would very much appreciate any thoughts, as I cannot live without the touchscreen on my beloved P1610, which by the way works very well on WIndows 7 despite having only 1 Go ram and a 4200 rpm hard drive.
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estuardo4
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Posted - 01/23/2009 :  18:17:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[/quote]

Hi,

I'm not managing to get the touch screen to operate in windows 7 and am really becoming desperate. xx(

Hi,

I'm really desperate .

If I try installing the vista driver. I get the same response as I already got a few times on Windows XP Tablet PC, "installation isn't complete". I tried to use this driver :
Touch Panel Driver V.1.0L03 110,881
At this location http://www.pc-ap.fujitsu.com/support/drv_lb_vista_p1610.html

I'm not sure I follow your remark on there being two versions of the p1610, and would very much appreciate any thoughts, as I cannot live without the touchscreen on my beloved P1610, which by the way works very well on WIndows 7 despite having only 1 Go ram and a 4200 rpm hard drive.

[/quote]

I remember that there were two different motherboards on the different versions of the P1610 (or two different BIOS). This was discussed way back when the P1610 went on sale. I think you should take a look at the forum's discussions from two or three years ago, as someone described the differences.

I will be testing Windows 7 this weekend and I'll let you know if I can use the drivers.

gb

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ondam
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  10:43:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by estuardo4




Hi,

I'm not managing to get the touch screen to operate in windows 7 and am really becoming desperate. xx(

Hi,

I'm really desperate .

If I try installing the vista driver. I get the same response as I already got a few times on Windows XP Tablet PC, "installation isn't complete". I tried to use this driver :
Touch Panel Driver V.1.0L03 110,881
At this location http://www.pc-ap.fujitsu.com/support/drv_lb_vista_p1610.html

I'm not sure I follow your remark on there being two versions of the p1610, and would very much appreciate any thoughts, as I cannot live without the touchscreen on my beloved P1610, which by the way works very well on WIndows 7 despite having only 1 Go ram and a 4200 rpm hard drive.

[/quote]

I remember that there were two different motherboards on the different versions of the P1610 (or two different BIOS). This was discussed way back when the P1610 went on sale. I think you should take a look at the forum's discussions from two or three years ago, as someone described the differences.

I will be testing Windows 7 this weekend and I'll let you know if I can use the drivers.

gb


[/quote]

Thanks a lot, really.

Actually, since this morning, the touchscreen works, though I don't understand how that came about, as I had previously restarted my machine, to no avail.

It so happens that I cannot use the "tablet calibration", but must use the windows 7 "tablet pc settings", which does not calibrate properly, and hence does not allow me to click on the sides of the screen (for instance to close a window).

Would any of you have this outcome, and have any idea on how to correct it ?

Many thanks,

Alain
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jkkw
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USA
26 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2009 :  11:37:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ondam

Thanks a lot, really.

Actually, since this morning, the touchscreen works, though I don't understand how that came about, as I had previously restarted my machine, to no avail.

It so happens that I cannot use the "tablet calibration", but must use the windows 7 "tablet pc settings", which does not calibrate properly, and hence does not allow me to click on the sides of the screen (for instance to close a window).

Would any of you have this outcome, and have any idea on how to correct it ?

Many thanks,

Alain



tablet calibration works for me. when i click on it, it asks to elevate, then works perfectly. Did you by any chance turn off UAC? turn it back on to see if the control panel works.

was this a clean install or upgrade? i got my drivers from http://support.fujitsupc.com/CS/Portal/support.do of course, i have a P1620, and not a P1610, but they should be very similar.
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jkkw
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USA
26 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2009 :  11:47:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thought of one more thing. check your bios, if you were using just regular XP before, your digitizer may not be in tablet PC mode. you would want it to be in tablet mode in Win7. this could be why your table calibration app was not working, as being in non-tablet mode means that the touch screen shows itself as a mouse to the OS. switching to tablet mode will enable the TIP and digitizer support.
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ondam
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4 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2009 :  12:07:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkkw

thought of one more thing. check your bios, if you were using just regular XP before, your digitizer may not be in tablet PC mode. you would want it to be in tablet mode in Win7. this could be why your table calibration app was not working, as being in non-tablet mode means that the touch screen shows itself as a mouse to the OS. switching to tablet mode will enable the TIP and digitizer support.



THanks a lot jkkw,
Thanks to the driver link you provided, I was able to install everything, for the touch screen as well as for the Alps pointing device or the fingerprint sensor (though not for the updated one).
Getting the digitizer to work under XP tablet pc has been such a headache for me that it is one great added plus of windows 7, which overall is working remarkably with my P1610 (better than my windows xp, though the clean install probably explains part of the improvement).
Thanks again,
Alain
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jurrabi
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2 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  18:08:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just installed windows 7 on my 1610.
Loving it so far...
No problem at all with the pen. Windows 7 installed the drivers by itself after the first boot. In fact I'm writing with it right now!

My problems right now come with the audio I the fingerprint sensor and the tablet buttons.
with the fingerprint sensor W7 suggested a dowload from AuthenTec site. Right now the fingerprint sensor is installed but when I try to activate it to autologin login windows, I get a crash in TrUesuite.FPR
The audio driver was installed by W7 but I does not sound. I remember l had a similar problem with vista... I'll check it.

The last problem is with tablet buttons. Have to digit... But, as I said I'm loving it so far... with 1GB memory works much better than vista!!
Loving the new handwriter tool, the action center... So many things!

I'll keep you informed with my progress

jur
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Rhinoth
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5 Posts

Posted - 01/29/2009 :  21:46:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have also installed Windows 7 for over a week on my P1610... I installed on a free 30GB hard disk and I feel the performance of Windows 7 is much better than the Vista SP1 I am using.

I have 1 GB of RAM and I think I wouldn't have to upgrade to 2GB if I am using Windows 7. The 2GB RAM is still quite expensive and I would rather spend the money to upgrade to a ZIF cable and a bigger or faster harddisk, possibily SSD.

Booting up is much faster and I could connect to the internet and opening up folders and files almost immediately right after loggin in, which is around 1 minute. Shutting down is also fast, for me is about 15 seconds and not more then 20 sec.

I also find the new taskbar (what they called superbar?) and the peek/preview and click to switch function very useful.

The problems I have now are that I would not be able to use the Finger Print device, although it seems to be installed correctly with the Vista driver. The program Omnipass is also not installable, although I use the compatibility function. I also couldn't get the Shock Sensor to work, even I installed the version that works for Vista SP1. I have sound and the tablet is working after installing the Vista driver.

Nevertheless I would definitely use Windows 7 on my P1610 when it becomes available. Still use Vista SP1 and will test Windows 7 again over the weekends.

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jurrabi
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Posted - 01/30/2009 :  15:15:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Update..

Sound OK. Without installing any drivers. I just checked Playback devices and selected the other speakers (don't ask me why there are two apart from the headphones conector)

With the fingerprint sensor still no luck. I must clarify that I'm not trying any driver not suggested by W7 yet. For fingerprint the action center reported a problem and suggested un update from Authentec(http://www.authentec.com/win7update/W7Wbf32.exe) But now when I try to activate W7 built in functionality to login with finger print a program called Truesuite crashes...

The tablet buttons still don't work. Although they are detected by the system I cannot configure them in control panel (set tablet pc buttons to perform certain tasks) It says that Tablet buttons are not installed on this system.

Finally I haven't installed also the GSM driver.

I think now is the time to try with no standar drivers (although I don't like it).

By the way Rhinoth, what is the shock sensor?

in general I totally agree with Rhinoth. I must buy this when it comes out. All changes are very nice... the taskbar, the action center, the tablet PC input panel... and so on and so on.
It runs just fine with 1GB. With explorer, onenote, folders and other small thins running it never goes over 800MB of used memory and it usually stays under 700MB.

Batery life has improved a lot (maybe because the fan is not running all the time and the processor and disk rest once in a while.)

Simply great.
Now I feel the machine serves for more than surfing the net...

Just try it folks. hurry up. You only have till Feb10 tu join the free beta test here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx

If anyone has luck with the finger print, please inform the driver used and how to install it.

See you all around.

Jur.
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Rhinoth
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Posted - 02/02/2009 :  11:56:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi... What I mean by Shock Sensor is the "Shock Sensor Utility" from Fujitsu, that will detect sudden impacts on the tabletpc and retract the read/write head of the hard drive to prevent causing possible damages to the HDD.

I tried the latest version 2.0L20 which works on Vista SP1, but it does not work on Windows 7. I also tried the preceding versions and they just don't work also, so I assume this utility must be re-written to fit Win 7.

I also have one more problem to add, which is the Wireless LAN On-Off Switch that doesn't function in Win 7. So I would not be able to switch off the Wi-Fi and it will detect for wireless signals all the time, which I assume will consume additional battery life.

But all these problems should be solved by the time Windows 7 got released sometime later.

All of the buttons on my tablet works but I did not set for customized buttons. Switching the P1610 to tablet format in Win 7, the screen will automatically change to vertical format.

My P1610 is not embedded with bluetooth but it runs well with the mini USB bluetooth dongle I have, with the Vista driver.

I also have a cardbus PCMCIA CF card reader and it works with the Vista driver.

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Rhinoth
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Posted - 02/05/2009 :  10:33:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For Fingerprint device, I downloaded the driver from AuthenTec as suggested above by jurrabi and set up in the "Biometric Devices" section and it is now working on the Windows 7.

There is no need to install the Omnipass programs, just to use the embedded Biometric Devices in the Control Panel, under the category "Hardware and Sound" to set up.

To visit the AuthenTec Windows 7 beta website:
http://www.authentec.com/win7beta32.cfm

I could now login by using the fingerprint sensor. The only small problem I find is that the sensor would only read the fingerprint in one direction. In Vista with Omnipass, I could swipe my finger in either direction.

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SpineDoc
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  08:10:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been running W7 since the beta came out, all drivers work and the PC runs awesome. Only issue is that I'm getting blue screens 0x0000007E constantly, mainly when the lid is closed (not sleep) and just sitting there. I'm trying to see if I'm the only one, I never got blue screens with previous vista and XP installs with the same exact hardware.
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nijel
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170 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2009 :  10:15:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I installed the last W7 beta1 build 7022 on my P1510D and everything works fine so far except for the fingerprint sensor (getting truesuite.fpr crash) and TPM chip not detected in BitLocker. Anyone got TPM detected?
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estuardo4
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39 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2009 :  12:03:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SpineDoc

Been running W7 since the beta came out, all drivers work and the PC runs awesome. Only issue is that I'm getting blue screens 0x0000007E constantly, mainly when the lid is closed (not sleep) and just sitting there. I'm trying to see if I'm the only one, I never got blue screens with previous vista and XP installs with the same exact hardware.



I'm having a lot of problems using the built in Explorer. Every time I try to change directories, the Explorer froze. I`m forced to use third party explorers. But other than that, and a few 0x0000007E blues screens there, I think the system is running well for a Beta.

I'm still not 100% sure to use it as my main OS yet.

gb

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jkkw
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USA
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Posted - 02/09/2009 :  19:18:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
spineDoc and Estuardo4, were your install clean installs or upgrades from Vista?
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estuardo4
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  14:05:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkkw

spineDoc and Estuardo4, were your install clean installs or upgrades from Vista?



I installed on an empty HDD, hence a clean install was made.

I've been reading some blogs about some BSOD. I'm having a few too. But I can't find what is causing them.

I'll keep you posted.

GB
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gonsped
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Australia
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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  19:31:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No BSODs here with Win7 on P1610. However even with SSD installed, the performance is still not as crisp as XP. I assume memory is the issue since I only have 1GB installed. CPU tends to run hotter than XP. I have the Aero glass feature turned off. IE8 still have a few hang up bugs though.
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